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	The [[assimilated]] ~~Jewish~~ community in Germany, prior to World War II, is claimed by [[Wikipedia]] to have been described as "'''more German than the Germans'''". The assimilation of German ~~Jews~~, following the [[Enlightenment]], is stated to have been extensive. Many European ~~Jews~~ are stated to have regarded Germany as a particularly desirable place to live, in comparison to Eastern Europe, with more [[anti-Semitism]], contributing to ~~Jewish~~ immigration to Germany.		The [[assimilated]] jewish community in Germany, prior to World War II, is claimed by [[Wikipedia]] to have been described as "'''more German than the Germans'''". The assimilation of German jews, following the [[Enlightenment]], is stated to have been extensive. Many European jews are stated to have regarded Germany as a particularly desirable place to live, in comparison to Eastern Europe, with more [[anti-Semitism]], contributing to jewish immigration to Germany.

	Such assimilation was not necessarily something seen as positive by all ~~Jewish~~ groups, such as [[Orthodox ~~Jews~~]] and [[Zionist]] ~~Jews~~ preferring that ~~Jews~~ should move to Palestine. Originally, the phrase was a "common sneer aimed at people" who had abandoned "the faith of their forefathers". Also German [[National Socialists]] may not necessarily have viewed assimilation as something positive, as compared to ~~Jews~~ being segregated, such as was the case before the [[Enlightenment]], for reasons such as possibly increasing [[~~Jewish~~ influence]].		Such assimilation was not necessarily something seen as positive by all jewish groups, such as [[Orthodox jews]] and [[Zionist]] jews preferring that jews should move to Palestine. Originally, the phrase was a "common sneer aimed at people" who had abandoned "the faith of their forefathers". Also German [[National Socialists]] may not necessarily have viewed assimilation as something positive, as compared to jews being segregated, such as was the case before the [[Enlightenment]], for reasons such as possibly increasing [[jewish influence]].

	==Origin==		==Origin==
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	==Background==		==Background==
	Following [[The Enlightenment]], many European ~~Jews~~ regarded Germany as a particularly desirable place to live, "a place of refuge, in comparison to Russia and Romania" where antisemitism was extremely virulent and violent, and even France, where the Enlightenment had begun. German ~~Jews~~ began to immerse themselves in German culture and the arts, playing a full and even leading role in society. By the twentieth century, the German ~~Jews~~ had reached a state of "Bildung & Besitz", ie cultivation and wealth.		Following [[The Enlightenment]], many European jews regarded Germany as a particularly desirable place to live, "a place of refuge, in comparison to Russia and Romania" where antisemitism was extremely virulent and violent, and even France, where the Enlightenment had begun. German jews began to immerse themselves in German culture and the arts, playing a full and even leading role in society. By the twentieth century, the German jews had reached a state of "Bildung & Besitz", ie cultivation and wealth.

	==Examples==		==Examples==
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	== See also ==		== See also ==
	*[[Weimar_Republic#~~Jewish_influence_and_anti~~-Semitism\|Weimar Republic: ~~Jewish~~ influence and anti-Semitism]]		*[[Weimar_Republic#jewish_influence_and_anti-Semitism\|Weimar Republic: jewish influence and anti-Semitism]]
	*[[Wir Juden]] - 1934 book by a ~~Jewish~~ Zionist stated to dislike ~~Jewish~~ assimilation and to support some National Socialist anti-assimilation policies.		*[[Wir Juden]] - 1934 book by a jewish Zionist stated to dislike jewish assimilation and to support some National Socialist anti-assimilation policies.

	==References==		==References==
	{{reflist\|2}}		{{reflist\|2}}

	[[Category:~~Jews~~]]		[[Category:jews]]
	[[Category:culture]]		[[Category:culture]]

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The [[assimilated]] Jewish community in Germany, prior to World War II, is claimed by [[Wikipedia]] to have been described as "'''more German than the Germans'''". The assimilation of German Jews, following the [[Enlightenment]], is stated to have been extensive. Many European Jews are stated to have regarded Germany as a particularly desirable place to live, in comparison to Eastern Europe, with more [[anti-Semitism]], contributing to Jewish immigration to Germany.

Such assimilation was not necessarily something seen as positive by all Jewish groups, such as [[Orthodox Jews]] and [[Zionist]] Jews preferring that Jews should move to Palestine. Originally, the phrase was a "common sneer aimed at people" who had abandoned "the faith of their forefathers". Also German [[National Socialists]] may not necessarily have viewed assimilation as something positive, as compared to Jews being segregated, such as was the case before the [[Enlightenment]], for reasons such as possibly increasing [[Jewish influence]].

==Origin==

Originally, the comment was a "common sneer aimed at people" who had "thrown off the faith of their forefathers and adopted the garb of their Fatherland".<ref>The Hitler émigrés: the cultural impact on Britain of refugees from National Socialism, Daniel Snowman, 2002, page 10, http://books.google.com/books?id=HF5nAAAAMAAJ&q=%22more+german+than+the+germans%22&dq=%22more+german+than+the+germans%22&hl=en</ref> The German assimilation, following [[The Enlightenment]], was "unprecedented"<ref>http://books.google.com/books?id=NDOJ473PJ_MC&pg=PA235&dq=%22more+german+than+the+germans%22&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22more%20german%20than%20the%20germans%22&f=false</ref> The phrase is sometimes ascribed to the Zionist and first President of [[Israel]] [[Chaim Weizmann]].

==Background==
Following [[The Enlightenment]], many European Jews regarded Germany as a particularly desirable place to live, "a place of refuge, in comparison to Russia and Romania" where antisemitism was extremely virulent and violent, and even France, where the Enlightenment had begun. German Jews began to immerse themselves in German culture and the arts, playing a full and even leading role in society. By the twentieth century, the German Jews had reached a state of "Bildung & Besitz", ie cultivation and wealth.

==Examples==
A notable example of this was Kurt Singer (born 1885, died in [[Terezin]] [[concentration camp]], 1944), "a conductor, musician, musicologist, and neurologist".<ref name="Singer">http://holocaustmusic.ort.org/politics-and-propaganda/third-reich/the-berlin-jdischer/singer-kurt/</ref> Singer was described by his daughter as "more German than the Germans" – he earned an [[Iron Cross]] for his gallantry in [[World War I]], was music editor for a Berlin newspaper and published research on music.<ref name="Singer"/>

Another cited example is [[Nikolaus Pevsner]], who was "more German than the Germans" to the extent that he supported "[[Goebbels]] in his drive for “pure” non-decadent German art".<ref name="Pev">http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/books/non-fiction/article7074469.ece</ref> and was reported as saying of the [[National Socialists]] (in 1933) "I want this movement to succeed. There is no alternative but chaos... There are things worse than [[Hitlerism]]".<ref name="Pev"/>

== See also ==
*[[Weimar_Republic#Jewish_influence_and_anti-Semitism|Weimar Republic: Jewish influence and anti-Semitism]]
*[[Wir Juden]] - 1934 book by a Jewish Zionist stated to dislike Jewish assimilation and to support some National Socialist anti-assimilation policies.

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Jews]]
[[Category:German culture]]