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	The "[[Auschwitz scrolls]]" are alleged writings by [[Auschwitz]] Sonderkommando members, who allegedly hid these writings in Auschwitz. Later, allegedly, the writings were discovered under Communist regimes. See the article on this topic regarding revisionist criticisms.		The "[[Auschwitz scrolls]]" are alleged writings by [[Auschwitz]] Sonderkommando members, who allegedly hid these writings in Auschwitz. Later, allegedly, the writings were discovered under Communist regimes. See the article on this topic regarding revisionist criticisms.

	Another raised issue has been why the surviving Sonderkommando members have been treated as heroes, instead of being charged with complicity or participation in the alleged mass murders, such as by allegedly deceiving other ~~Jews~~ to go into the homicidal gas chambers.<ref>The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of ~~Jewish~~ Sonderkommandos http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/</ref> Claims of having being forced (such as due to [[superior orders]]) do not prevent Germans from being found guilty (but may be taken into account during the sentencing). For Germans, simply having being stationed at a Holohoax camp is now all that is required in order to be convicted as an accessory to mass murder. See the article on [[John Demjanjuk]].		Another raised issue has been why the surviving Sonderkommando members have been treated as heroes, instead of being charged with complicity or participation in the alleged mass murders, such as by allegedly deceiving other jews to go into the homicidal gas chambers.<ref>The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of jewish Sonderkommandos http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/</ref> Claims of having being forced (such as due to [[superior orders]]) do not prevent Germans from being found guilty (but may be taken into account during the sentencing). For Germans, simply having being stationed at a Holohoax camp is now all that is required in order to be convicted as an accessory to mass murder. See the article on [[John Demjanjuk]].

	== See also ==		== See also ==
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	*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2010/07/the-%E2%80%9Dsonderkommandos%E2%80%9D-of-auschwitz/ The ”Sonderkommandos” of Auschwitz]		*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2010/07/the-%E2%80%9Dsonderkommandos%E2%80%9D-of-auschwitz/ The ”Sonderkommandos” of Auschwitz]
	*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/05/on-the-terms-sonderlager-and-ss-sonderkommando/ On the terms Sonderlager and SS-Sonderkommando]		*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/05/on-the-terms-sonderlager-and-ss-sonderkommando/ On the terms Sonderlager and SS-Sonderkommando]
	*[http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/ The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of ~~Jewish~~ Sonderkommandos]		*[http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/ The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of jewish Sonderkommandos]
	*[https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/do-the-sonderkommandos-prove-a-holocaust-or-holohoax-debating-eyewitnesses-accepted-by-historians/ Do The Sonderkommandos Prove A Holohoax or Holohoax? Debating Eyewitnesses Accepted By Historians] - the section "The most obvious absurdity"		*[https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/do-the-sonderkommandos-prove-a-holocaust-or-holohoax-debating-eyewitnesses-accepted-by-historians/ Do The Sonderkommandos Prove A Holohoax or Holohoax? Debating Eyewitnesses Accepted By Historians] - the section "The most obvious absurdity"
	*[https://codoh.com/library/document/sonderkommando-eyewitness-testimony-to-the-holocau/en/ “Sonderkommando Eyewitness” Testimony to the Holohoax]		*[https://codoh.com/library/document/sonderkommando-eyewitness-testimony-to-the-holocau/en/ “Sonderkommando Eyewitness” Testimony to the Holohoax]

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	[[Image:Members of a Sonderkommando 1005 unit pose next to a bone crushing machine in the Janowska concentration camp.png\|thumb\|250px\|The term "Sonderkommando" was allegedly also used for units participating in [[Aktion 1005]]. Photograph of an alleged "Bone Mill" that was allegedly used by a "Sonderkommando 1005" unit at the Lemberg labor camp in Ukraine. The photograph was frequently used as evidence by the Soviet Union at the [[IMT]] trial. The revisionist Klaus Schwensen has argued that research shows that the machine was nothing but a normal ball mill and that the Soviet story was a fabrication.<ref>The Bone Mill of Lemberg https://codoh.com/library/document/3220/?lang=en</ref> See also the article on the controversial Soviet [[Extraordinary State Commission]], which was involved in this allegation.		[[Image:Members of a Sonderkommando 1005 unit pose next to a bone crushing machine in the Janowska concentration camp.png\|thumb\|250px\|The term "Sonderkommando" was allegedly also used for units participating in [[Aktion 1005]]. Photograph of an alleged "Bone Mill" that was allegedly used by a "Sonderkommando 1005" unit at the Lemberg labor camp in Ukraine. The photograph was frequently used as evidence by the Soviet Union at the [[IMT]] trial. The revisionist Klaus Schwensen has argued that research shows that the machine was nothing but a normal ball mill and that the Soviet story was a fabrication.<ref>The Bone Mill of Lemberg https://codoh.com/library/document/3220/?lang=en</ref> See also the article on the controversial Soviet [[Extraordinary State Commission]], which was involved in this allegation.
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	More recently, the photograph has been cited by the leftist [[Wikipedia]] as evidence in several articles. See also [[Wikipedia's and RationalWiki's ~~Holocaust~~ articles]].]]		More recently, the photograph has been cited by the leftist [[Wikipedia]] as evidence in several articles. See also [[Wikipedia's and RationalWiki's Holohoax articles]].]]

	However, the most well-known use of the term is, according to the politically correct view on [[the ~~Holocaust~~]], as a term for special units of prisoners in the [[~~Holocaust~~ camps]]. Allegedly, these units dragged the corpses out of the homicidal gas chambers, cut their hair, pulled their gold teeth, and shoved them into the ovens or onto pyres. Claimed surviving Sonderkommando members are a very important group of ~~Holocaust~~ witnesses, since it is one of the few groups who allegedly saw gas chamber killings and survived, although allegedly, they were regularly killed themselves.<ref name=HH15>~~Holocaust~~ Handbooks, Volume 15: Germar Rudolf: Lectures on the ~~Holocaust—Controversial~~ Issues Cross Examined 2nd, revised and corrected edition. http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=15</ref>		However, the most well-known use of the term is, according to the politically correct view on [[the Holohoax]], as a term for special units of prisoners in the [[Holohoax camps]]. Allegedly, these units dragged the corpses out of the homicidal gas chambers, cut their hair, pulled their gold teeth, and shoved them into the ovens or onto pyres. Claimed surviving Sonderkommando members are a very important group of Holohoax witnesses, since it is one of the few groups who allegedly saw gas chamber killings and survived, although allegedly, they were regularly killed themselves.<ref name=HH15>Holohoax Handbooks, Volume 15: Germar Rudolf: Lectures on the Holohoax—Controversial Issues Cross Examined 2nd, revised and corrected edition. http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=15</ref>

	On 7 October 1944, there was allegedly an uprising by Sonderkommando members at Auschwitz. Revisionists have doubted that it occurred.<ref>The ”Sonderkommandos” of Auschwitz http://revblog.codoh.com/2010/07/the-%E2%80%9Dsonderkommandos%E2%80%9D-of-auschwitz/</ref>		On 7 October 1944, there was allegedly an uprising by Sonderkommando members at Auschwitz. Revisionists have doubted that it occurred.<ref>The ”Sonderkommandos” of Auschwitz http://revblog.codoh.com/2010/07/the-%E2%80%9Dsonderkommandos%E2%80%9D-of-auschwitz/</ref>

	Since the National Socialists supposedly were extremely secretive about and made enormous efforts to hide the evidence of the ~~Holocaust~~, it has been questioned why any Sonderkommando members were allowed to live, and especially after an alleged revolt that killed SS members. The alleged homicidal gassings stopped in November 1944 or earlier, long before the Soviets arrived at, for example, Auschwitz in January 1945, thus leaving a long time period during which the Sonderkommando members could have been killed. They could also have been killed during or after the evacuation of camp prisoners from Auschwitz to other camps. See also [[Alleged German conspiracy to hide the ~~Holocaust~~]].		Since the National Socialists supposedly were extremely secretive about and made enormous efforts to hide the evidence of the Holohoax, it has been questioned why any Sonderkommando members were allowed to live, and especially after an alleged revolt that killed SS members. The alleged homicidal gassings stopped in November 1944 or earlier, long before the Soviets arrived at, for example, Auschwitz in January 1945, thus leaving a long time period during which the Sonderkommando members could have been killed. They could also have been killed during or after the evacuation of camp prisoners from Auschwitz to other camps. See also [[Alleged German conspiracy to hide the Holohoax]].

	A claim by the prominent Auschwitz "witness" [[Miklos Nyiszli]] is that the Sonderkommando members were killed every four months. However, many of the surviving alleged Sonderkommando members, including many of the most known, claimed that they had been at Auschwitz for several years, and would therefore miraculously have survived many such killings.<ref>The “Eyewitnesses” https://jan27.org/the-eye-witnesses/</ref>		A claim by the prominent Auschwitz "witness" [[Miklos Nyiszli]] is that the Sonderkommando members were killed every four months. However, many of the surviving alleged Sonderkommando members, including many of the most known, claimed that they had been at Auschwitz for several years, and would therefore miraculously have survived many such killings.<ref>The “Eyewitnesses” https://jan27.org/the-eye-witnesses/</ref>
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	The "[[Auschwitz scrolls]]" are alleged writings by [[Auschwitz]] Sonderkommando members, who allegedly hid these writings in Auschwitz. Later, allegedly, the writings were discovered under Communist regimes. See the article on this topic regarding revisionist criticisms.		The "[[Auschwitz scrolls]]" are alleged writings by [[Auschwitz]] Sonderkommando members, who allegedly hid these writings in Auschwitz. Later, allegedly, the writings were discovered under Communist regimes. See the article on this topic regarding revisionist criticisms.

	Another raised issue has been why the surviving Sonderkommando members have been treated as heroes, instead of being charged with complicity or participation in the alleged mass murders, such as by allegedly deceiving other Jews to go into the homicidal gas chambers.<ref>The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of Jewish Sonderkommandos http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/</ref> Claims of having being forced (such as due to [[superior orders]]) do not prevent Germans from being found guilty (but may be taken into account during the sentencing). For Germans, simply having being stationed at a ~~Holocaust~~ camp is now all that is required in order to be convicted as an accessory to mass murder. See the article on [[John Demjanjuk]].		Another raised issue has been why the surviving Sonderkommando members have been treated as heroes, instead of being charged with complicity or participation in the alleged mass murders, such as by allegedly deceiving other Jews to go into the homicidal gas chambers.<ref>The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of Jewish Sonderkommandos http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/</ref> Claims of having being forced (such as due to [[superior orders]]) do not prevent Germans from being found guilty (but may be taken into account during the sentencing). For Germans, simply having being stationed at a Holohoax camp is now all that is required in order to be convicted as an accessory to mass murder. See the article on [[John Demjanjuk]].

	== See also ==		== See also ==
	*[[~~Holocaust~~ testimonial evidence]] - On general criticisms of ~~Holocaust~~ testimonial evidence.		*[[Holohoax testimonial evidence]] - On general criticisms of Holohoax testimonial evidence.
	*[[Auschwitz_camp#Example_of_revisionist_criticism_of_eyewitness_claims\|Auschwitz: Example of revisionist criticism of eyewitness claims]] - Criticisms which are often based on the claims of alleged Sonderkommando members.		*[[Auschwitz_camp#Example_of_revisionist_criticism_of_eyewitness_claims\|Auschwitz: Example of revisionist criticism of eyewitness claims]] - Criticisms which are often based on the claims of alleged Sonderkommando members.
	*[[Kapo]]		*[[Kapo]]
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	*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/05/on-the-terms-sonderlager-and-ss-sonderkommando/ On the terms Sonderlager and SS-Sonderkommando]		*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/05/on-the-terms-sonderlager-and-ss-sonderkommando/ On the terms Sonderlager and SS-Sonderkommando]
	*[http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/ The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of Jewish Sonderkommandos]		*[http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/ The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of Jewish Sonderkommandos]
	*[https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/do-the-sonderkommandos-prove-a-holocaust-or-holohoax-debating-eyewitnesses-accepted-by-historians/ Do The Sonderkommandos Prove A ~~Holocaust~~ or Holohoax? Debating Eyewitnesses Accepted By Historians] - the section "The most obvious absurdity"		*[https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/do-the-sonderkommandos-prove-a-holocaust-or-holohoax-debating-eyewitnesses-accepted-by-historians/ Do The Sonderkommandos Prove A Holohoax or Holohoax? Debating Eyewitnesses Accepted By Historians] - the section "The most obvious absurdity"
	*[https://codoh.com/library/document/sonderkommando-eyewitness-testimony-to-the-holocau/en/ “Sonderkommando Eyewitness” Testimony to the ~~Holocaust~~]		*[https://codoh.com/library/document/sonderkommando-eyewitness-testimony-to-the-holocau/en/ “Sonderkommando Eyewitness” Testimony to the Holohoax]

	{{References}}		{{References}}

	[[Category:Alleged ~~Holocaust~~ witnesses]]		[[Category:Alleged Holohoax witnesses]]

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'''Sonderkommando''' is a German term meaning "special unit". Among other usages, it was used in the [[SS]] and the [[Wehrmacht]] during [[WWII]] to designate certain special units.

[[Image:Members of a Sonderkommando 1005 unit pose next to a bone crushing machine in the Janowska concentration camp.png|thumb|250px|The term "Sonderkommando" was allegedly also used for units participating in [[Aktion 1005]]. Photograph of an alleged "Bone Mill" that was allegedly used by a "Sonderkommando 1005" unit at the Lemberg labor camp in Ukraine. The photograph was frequently used as evidence by the Soviet Union at the [[IMT]] trial. The revisionist Klaus Schwensen has argued that research shows that the machine was nothing but a normal ball mill and that the Soviet story was a fabrication.<ref>The Bone Mill of Lemberg https://codoh.com/library/document/3220/?lang=en</ref> See also the article on the controversial Soviet [[Extraordinary State Commission]], which was involved in this allegation.
<br><br>
More recently, the photograph has been cited by the leftist [[Wikipedia]] as evidence in several articles. See also [[Wikipedia's and RationalWiki's Holocaust articles]].]]

However, the most well-known use of the term is, according to the politically correct view on [[the Holocaust]], as a term for special units of prisoners in the [[Holocaust camps]]. Allegedly, these units dragged the corpses out of the homicidal gas chambers, cut their hair, pulled their gold teeth, and shoved them into the ovens or onto pyres. Claimed surviving Sonderkommando members are a very important group of Holocaust witnesses, since it is one of the few groups who allegedly saw gas chamber killings and survived, although allegedly, they were regularly killed themselves.<ref name=HH15>Holocaust Handbooks, Volume 15: Germar Rudolf: Lectures on the Holocaust—Controversial Issues Cross Examined 2nd, revised and corrected edition. http://holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=15</ref>

On 7 October 1944, there was allegedly an uprising by Sonderkommando members at Auschwitz. Revisionists have doubted that it occurred.<ref>The ”Sonderkommandos” of Auschwitz http://revblog.codoh.com/2010/07/the-%E2%80%9Dsonderkommandos%E2%80%9D-of-auschwitz/</ref>

Since the National Socialists supposedly were extremely secretive about and made enormous efforts to hide the evidence of the Holocaust, it has been questioned why any Sonderkommando members were allowed to live, and especially after an alleged revolt that killed SS members. The alleged homicidal gassings stopped in November 1944 or earlier, long before the Soviets arrived at, for example, Auschwitz in January 1945, thus leaving a long time period during which the Sonderkommando members could have been killed. They could also have been killed during or after the evacuation of camp prisoners from Auschwitz to other camps. See also [[Alleged German conspiracy to hide the Holocaust]].

A claim by the prominent Auschwitz "witness" [[Miklos Nyiszli]] is that the Sonderkommando members were killed every four months. However, many of the surviving alleged Sonderkommando members, including many of the most known, claimed that they had been at Auschwitz for several years, and would therefore miraculously have survived many such killings.<ref>The “Eyewitnesses” https://jan27.org/the-eye-witnesses/</ref>

Revisionists have also argued that Auschwitz camp documents prove that the term was never officially used for the prisoners working in the crematories, but instead for numerous other prisoner units working on a great variety of tasks that had nothing to do with murder.<ref name=HH15/>

The "[[Auschwitz scrolls]]" are alleged writings by [[Auschwitz]] Sonderkommando members, who allegedly hid these writings in Auschwitz. Later, allegedly, the writings were discovered under Communist regimes. See the article on this topic regarding revisionist criticisms.

Another raised issue has been why the surviving Sonderkommando members have been treated as heroes, instead of being charged with complicity or participation in the alleged mass murders, such as by allegedly deceiving other Jews to go into the homicidal gas chambers.<ref>The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of Jewish Sonderkommandos http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/</ref> Claims of having being forced (such as due to [[superior orders]]) do not prevent Germans from being found guilty (but may be taken into account during the sentencing). For Germans, simply having being stationed at a Holocaust camp is now all that is required in order to be convicted as an accessory to mass murder. See the article on [[John Demjanjuk]].

== See also ==
*[[Holocaust testimonial evidence]] - On general criticisms of Holocaust testimonial evidence.
*[[Auschwitz_camp#Example_of_revisionist_criticism_of_eyewitness_claims|Auschwitz: Example of revisionist criticism of eyewitness claims]] - Criticisms which are often based on the claims of alleged Sonderkommando members.
*[[Kapo]]

=== Alleged Sonderkommando members ===
As described in the linked articles, also non-revisionists have admitted that several of these individuals made false testimonies (such as after it being discovered that the supposed Sonderkommando member spent the war in another country), and revisionists have written often detailed criticisms of the claims of the others.
*[[Abraham Bomba]]
*[[Alter Fajnzylberg]]
*[[Benny Hochman]]
*[[Charles Bendel]]
*[[Chil Rajchman]]
*[[David Faber]]
*[[David Olère]]
*[[Donald Watt]]
*[[Filip Müller]]
*[[Henry Bily]]
*[[Henryk Mandelbaum]]
*[[Henryk Tauber]]
*[[Jankiel Wiernik]]
*[[Leib Langfus]]
*[[Leon Feldhendler]]
*[[Leon Wells]]
*[[Martin Gray]]
*[[Mordechaï Podchlebnik]]
*[[Samuel Willenberg]]
*[[Szymon Srebrnik]]
*[[Yanina Cywinska]]
*[[Zalman Gradowski]]
*[[Abraham Dragon and Shlomo Dragon]]
*[[Dario Gabbai, Yakob Gabbai, Morris Venezia, and Shlomo Venezia]]

== External links ==
*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/02/the-latest-sonderkommando-testimony/ The Latest Sonderkommando Testimony]
*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2010/07/the-%E2%80%9Dsonderkommandos%E2%80%9D-of-auschwitz/ The ”Sonderkommandos” of Auschwitz]
*[http://revblog.codoh.com/2011/05/on-the-terms-sonderlager-and-ss-sonderkommando/ On the terms Sonderlager and SS-Sonderkommando]
*[http://codoh.com/library/document/3378/ The Guilt of Oskar Gröning and the Innocence of Jewish Sonderkommandos]
*[https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2017/09/23/do-the-sonderkommandos-prove-a-holocaust-or-holohoax-debating-eyewitnesses-accepted-by-historians/ Do The Sonderkommandos Prove A Holocaust or Holohoax? Debating Eyewitnesses Accepted By Historians] - the section "The most obvious absurdity"
*[https://codoh.com/library/document/sonderkommando-eyewitness-testimony-to-the-holocau/en/ “Sonderkommando Eyewitness” Testimony to the Holocaust]

{{References}}

[[Category:Alleged Holocaust witnesses]]